Homosexuality, what are we to make of it?

Written by: Louie Vetter on Thursday, April 14th, 2016

It seems everywhere you turn these days you see and hear of gay pride, gay marriages, homophobia, gay tolerance and gay bashing.

What are we Hutterites to make of all this? Where should we stand? Didn’t Jesus talk of love and forgiveness?

Matthew 19:4-5 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

Exodus 20:14 “Thou shalt not commit adultery.”

Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage is honorable among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge.”

1 Corinthians 6:9 “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.”

From these passages we know that sex outside marriage as God ordained it is adultery. Adultery is sin. Sin cannot enter heaven.

I’ve had a few discussions with people on the subject of gay activity and marriages. For one they say “These people love each other, God is love and loves love, so therefore being gay is good.” or “These people were born gay, and God made these people, therefore gay is good”

“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” Isaiah 5:20

There is also the argument that if we feel a want or a need, that we need to pursue that want, cultivate that want, and fulfill that want, but there’s a real problem with that. Let’s take for example a married man who sees a beautiful woman and feels lust towards her. Should he cultivate and let that lust grow until it’s too powerful for him to resist? Or should he resist and quell that lust right away, reminding himself that it’s an adulterous, sinful lust that will only lead to heartbreak and a breaking up of his family? Or how about the young lad who feels a lust to build fires? Should he consider since he was born with that lust that he should fulfill it? Or the lust of the drunkard to drink? The druggie towards drugs? The depraved to depravity? The rapist to rape? The killer to kill? How should we separate a good lust from a bad lust? For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false witness, slander. Matthew 15:19.
There are also many good passions, for example a farmer who’s passionate of raising animals, a nurse with great compassion for sick people, a gardener who loves to garden, or a cook who takes great pride in how the evening meal turned out.

What we need to is a moral guide. But what should that be? Our own feelings and passions are not very good guides. Government then, or society at large? Fifty plus one vote? We know those are not good moral guides, for if they were, Auschwitz would have never happened. Look at the tribes who supported cannibalism and human sacrifice. And look at the current issues with abortion and euthanasia. We have to admit that there’s only one true moral guide by which morals can be judged by and that’s by the Word of God. Scripture tells us we are made in the image of God. That gives human life intrinsic and unmeasurable value.

So back to the subject at hand. What is the homosexual to do with his orientation towards the same sex?
Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s. 1 Corinthians 6:19.

The homosexual has to first of all recognize it as sin, repress and quell it with all other sinful lusts and walk the narrow road. For what are the passions of this world worth towards the passions of what is to come?

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. 1 John 2:16

It seems we all have our own special cross to bear. And that cross can be our ticket to heaven. Without that cross we live a life that has no problems or cares. A life where we depend on ourself and our strengths and talents. A life where we get along just fine without God. A life where we have no need for a God and no need to look for one. Where we don’t need to look upon the heavens for help. Yes, that’s what a cross does. It makes us recognize and see how Iittle in control and helpless we really are. It makes us look for God, ask for his help and depend on it. It makes us understand what Paul meant when he wrote “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me. That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong.

So yes, we can say homosexuality is a heavy cross to bear, but not unlike many other different crosses that people bear. We have to recognize it as such. God loves sinners and so should we, for in reality we are all sinners and in desperate need of God’s Grace. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? And the answer to this is: Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Romans 6

Look at this sobering message in Hebrews 10:26 “For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins.”

Let’s not be fooled, sin remains sin and shame remains shame. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Hebrews 13:8  God’s values and morals don’t and won’t change with the passing of time, changes in philosophy or advancements in science. God doesn’t need to go through the Age of Enlightenment. He is the Enlightenment. We must conform to the ways of God for he will never change, nor will he conform to the ever-changing whims of man.
But if one doesn’t believe there is a God and that we were made in his image, then I suppose there is no reason not to support the entire LGBT movement. There is also no reason not to support any lust or passion of any kind, regardless of consequence. If all there is to this life is this life then who are we (Christians) to expect (Christian) morals from anyone? Who are we to say what’s right and what’s wrong? Who says there even is a right or wrong?

Louie Vetter

Showing 19 comments

angela said:
On: 26th Jun, 2016 at 00:43

Very well stated. Thank you

Maggie said:
On: 30th Jul, 2016 at 18:47

You say, “Didn’t Jesus talk of love and forgiveness?”, but then you explain why homosexuality is a sin. How, then, do you feel a good Christian should treat homosexuals? With love and forgiveness?

    Louie Vetter said:
    On: 31st Jul, 2016 at 20:54

    With genuine care and concern over the sinners eternal salvation.

Luke said:
On: 3rd Aug, 2016 at 22:50

I truly enjoy learning about your ways, your life and the culture. I am gay and I will except your values and your opinion on homosexuality. I hope if we ever meet, you will the value my life, and the values of my character. Just maybe living by….loving the sinner and not the sin can be something considered. God works in mysterious ways, we all know that. Just maybe we will meet, or you will meet someone like me….I hope a friendship will spark out of commonalities. Through God all things are possible.
Thank you,

    Louie Vetter said:
    On: 7th Aug, 2016 at 17:52

    You sound sincere, I think I’d enjoy visiting with you Luke.

Irene said:
On: 3rd Sep, 2016 at 15:33

Honestly this sounds exactly like my own ideas written in words forthrightly and how I want to say them. Thank you so much. I’ve wanted to do some outreach to young homosexuals because I believe that sin is born in the mind. I am not a homosexual but have struggled with sexual sin and want to let these people know that they can be free. There is no benefit to them by calling right wrong and wrong right if they suffer eternal damnation. That’s not loving. I think I could go on and on but you’ve already said it. Again, thank you.

Wilhelm Wolfe said:
On: 22nd Oct, 2016 at 22:53

Very well said. But how do you define what sin is? What does the bible say is sin?

    Louie Vetter said:
    On: 23rd Oct, 2016 at 01:57

    Most simply put, whatever doesn’t conform to the character of God.

    The Bible
    (1 John 3:4) Sin is the transgression of the law
    (1 John 5:17) All unrighteousness is sin

Lawrence Underwood said:
On: 12th Mar, 2017 at 14:05

I have a loved one that was raised in a christian home but has wandered from her christian beliefs over time. She claims that God made her a lesbian, and is not receptive to anything I have said. She knows that her mother and I love her and we see her on a regular basis, we pray often for her. Your article is very well written and I printed it up to share with her, thank you for using your writting ability to so skillfully comment on this subject. I believe as the end of days come that the gay agenda will be used by Satan to bring about the great persecution to Christians in the end times. We as Christians must continue to shine our light and be instruments to God in bringing His salvation to others. Thank you Brother!

Jay said:
On: 21st Jul, 2017 at 03:43

I’ve always thought of sins as very harmful things, either to ourselves or to others. I believe in living a wholesome life, so of course waiting for Mr or Mrs right and not sleeping around with tons of people. I’m a firm believer of God and try to read my bible often, but what happens when you happen to be gay? Is it truly a harmful thing if for example a man lives a pure life and loves God, and wants to share his life with a guy whose the same? I know the LGBT community has a verrry bad reputation for not always living a wholesome life, just as many heteros don’t either.

My question is though what is wrong with same sex couples being together? I’ve heard many say stuff like, oh they can’t produce children , etc. But what about straight couples who can’t create naturally either? Is a pure and wholesome homosexual couple really hurting anyone, or are they just deemed as icky? Why would God be angry about two people in love , joining together , and still loving him? This is a ramble I know , and I’m in no way trying to be disrespectful, but it’s very hard for some of us God loving gays. It feels as if we’re not wanted by either side of the coin.. the gay community , or our religious ones. Great article though!

    William said:
    On: 11th Aug, 2017 at 21:58

    Pray often throughout the day and read at least a chapter of Scripture everyday. Offer all your efforts to the Lord. Learn about genuine love through the Gospels. Remember our lives pass quickly and soon enough we will be in front of God, who is jealous and wants all of our love. Remember that genuine love always considers a person as an end rather than a means. We are not slaves to sin but to righteousness that leads to sanctification and ultimately what God desires for us, happiness. Romans 6: 12-23. Jay, your only true identify is as a child of God, divine filiation. Disconnect from everything that diminishes that relationship and you will develop a supernatural outlook and be filled with hope and peace.

    Louie Vetter said:
    On: 12th Aug, 2017 at 03:44

    How do you know that Jesus loves you?
    The Bible tells you so.
    How do you know that homosexuality is a sin?
    The Bible tells you so.

    This may remind you of the children’s song we all know and love, but it’s that simple. If you’re a firm believer in God, then you believe the Bible is His Word.

    If however, you doubt the Bible, then you doubt God, and once you doubt God, the door swings wide open to the lusts of the heart.

Susan Story said:
On: 18th Nov, 2017 at 13:06

Yes, I agree that homosexuality is an abomination. In 1967 when I was in grade 5, I remember when a man from the Gideons came to my classroom to distribute a New Testament to the children. Because it was Canada’s Centennial Year, it had a gold cover. They were telling us we were special because we’d have to wait till 2067 for another one with a gold cover.

Inside the cover, it had “Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people”. Then he was going on about how righteousness exalts a nation.

Hope said:
On: 5th Feb, 2018 at 20:16

In Rom the later part of chapter one tells us why people go homosexual. Rom 1:18-32. I don’t believe they are born that way. And don’t need to stay that way. But if you tell the truth they don’t hire the Love part. We are to love the sinner but hate the sin.

    Charity said:
    On: 2nd Mar, 2018 at 17:44

    Hope your aptly named I was born over 60 years ago into a Christian family, having lived the Christian way of life denying, to myself & family my true feelings. I decided to be true to myself and my family and admit my homosexuality. I am still true to God living in a faithful & loving relationship. God has not abandoned me & I him

    A Bible Believer said:
    On: 16th Apr, 2018 at 10:59

    “Love the sinner but hate the sin” – are there any scriptural foundations behind that statement? The Bible says God hates the wicked and is angry with them every day. I think as Christians we should hate what God hates – impenitent sinners, but not to the degree that we “despise” them, but to the degree that we leave them alone and avoid them as long as they continue in sin and unbelief. Likewise we are to hate false, unbiblical doctrines and the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which Jesus also hates.

Michael Wipf said:
On: 23rd Dec, 2018 at 22:40

Are homosexual people born homosexual, or do they become so by desire? I am gay and in my early childhood I already knew I was different. Acting heterosexual, married , raised a wonderful family which I adore. Aged 70 now, my hidden desires often took me to the edge of suicde. With tears and prayers and faith in God, I’m still here . Love my family and friends who now I really am.
On the contrary, the first including Ministers face me with bitter condemnation, telling me it was my choice to become gay.
Life has been an never ending struggle me .
Why then would nobody else ,but a fool choose being gay???

    Louie Vetter said:
    On: 27th Dec, 2018 at 19:51

    Dear Michael.
    I have to believe what you say, that you had a desire from early childhood on, a desire that you didn’t choose or want.
    I can feel by your letter that it has been a lonely and bitter lifelong struggle and at times an overwhelming cross to bear. God alone will know the inner turmoil and pain in your heart. However, your faith has helped you raise a family which has obviously brought you much joy and fulfillment and that, no doubt, will help ease your mind on the decision you made for yourself.
    So on your question on why anyone would choose to be gay, I think you’d be the best one qualified to answer and I think you have.
    I thank you for your honesty and your story. May God bless you and continue leading you and eventually wipe the tears from your eyes.

Vicki Mitchell said:
On: 27th May, 2019 at 19:08

Very well stated especially about “cultivating” our wants/desires.